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How founders reach customers through an audience, partnerships, product positioning, and sales.

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Which channel fits the customer and the product?

Ryan Born
Ryan BornCloud Campaign

Signups are not the same as paying customers

An email signup can indicate curiosity without proving that someone will pay. Finding a narrower customer and a relevant offer mattered more than the initial launch numbers.

Context Social media software for marketing agencies.
Ruben Gamez
Ruben GamezSignWell

Balance feedback with the risks of sharing an idea

Seeking advice and customer evidence must be weighed against the practical risks of keeping an idea private. Customer case studies are a separate sales asset that require customer participation.

Context Rob Walling and Ruben Gamez discuss customer case studies and idea sharing.

Make a brand change reflect the product

A brand change should reflect the product and its customers. Barry describes maintaining a focus on creators while extending what the platform can do through third-party applications.

Context ConvertKit's 2024 rebrand to Kit. Pat Flynn was a customer, advisor and affiliate.

Compare the approaches

SpeakerApproachContext
Ryan Born2019-10-28

Signups are not the same as paying customers

Social media software for marketing agencies.

Ruben Gamez2026-09-29

Balance feedback with the risks of sharing an idea

Rob Walling and Ruben Gamez discuss customer case studies and idea sharing.

Nathan Barry2024-10-02

Make a brand change reflect the product

ConvertKit's 2024 rebrand to Kit. Pat Flynn was a customer, advisor and affiliate.

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