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Validating demand

Interviews, manual services, early users, and the difference between interest and willingness to pay.

9 perspectives · 3 podcasts · Summaries linked to original sources

How do you find out whether someone will pay?

Ryan Born
Ryan BornCloud Campaign

Signups are not the same as paying customers

An email signup can indicate curiosity without proving that someone will pay. Finding a narrower customer and a relevant offer mattered more than the initial launch numbers.

Context Social media software for marketing agencies.
Josh Ho
Josh HoReferral Rock

Ask free users to pay

Free adoption was not enough to establish the business. Asking customers to pay and speaking with them directly changed the evidence available to the founder.

Context B2B referral software built without external funding.

Customer funding shapes early business choices

Bootstrapping affects the pace of growth, who gets paid and which risks a founder can take. Customer funding and personal investment shaped ConvertKit’s early choices.

Context Nathan Barry on ConvertKit in 2016. Pat Flynn was a customer and advisor.

Compare the approaches

SpeakerApproachContext
Josh Pigford2015-03-09

Charge when the product solves a paid problem

Stripe analytics for online software businesses.

Ryan Born2019-10-28

Signups are not the same as paying customers

Social media software for marketing agencies.

Josh Ho2019-07-15

Ask free users to pay

B2B referral software built without external funding.

Rob Walling2026-10-13

Evaluate the problem and the market

Rob Walling answers a listener question about choosing a SaaS idea.

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